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redwhitecooper

Tue May 30 2006, 02:38PM

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Tue May 30 2006, 05:05PM

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usual balls of the trade as my car had 15's when i got it and now had second hand set that were half runflat and half non and the insrunace never batted an eye when i claimed for my crash

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Tue May 30 2006, 08:29PM

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What James said above ^

Read my earlier post about tyre sizes?

Suspension setup is not a problem. You don't need an expensive MINI-Mobility kit just get 2 cans of tyre weld at �8.50 a can and a mini-compressor that works off the ciggy lighter (about �12 for a swish one I have seen them for a fiver in M1 services shops

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Runflats at �120 a corner versus Toyo T1-R at �65 + VAT is no contest....

Try http://www.micheldever.co.uk/

Not too far away from Blandford

You can't book a slot and avoid Saturdays as you will q for 2 hours 8O

Best time is Monday at 9.00am

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Wed May 31 2006, 08:35AM

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Well I just went to a Tyre Dealer in Blandford today, to see if I could get a quote for Toyo's.

It was interesting it started OK, yes they could get Toyo's, then they asked if I had them already on the car, at which point I said no I have runflats at the moment. Oh my God, you would have thought I was asking them to take their own lives.

I was given a stream of excuses as to why they do not recommend changing from Runflats, including the suspension is set up for runflats, the insurance company (who don't even know whether I have runflats), the rims are specifically designed for runflats. etc etc.

They did say that they had done 1 car before :roll: but strongly do not recommend it.

Or maybe it was the fact that they have a lovelly big Goodyear Runflat Sign outside and that the non runflats would be cheaper. :roll:

Hence I walked out and will be going elsewhere, even for tyres for my wifes car as well.

I did a little bit of research and it seems that this is a common tactic by some tyre outlets.

So why do MINI offer a Mobility kit ??

Why is the Suspension setup on all MINI's no diferent if you have Runflats or Non Runflats ??

Also Pirelli say that non Runflats can be put on Runflat rims !!!

Even MINI dealers do not seem to have any problem with people moving over to non Runflats :roll: :roll:

where too was that was it blandford tyre and battery........i was going to go there this afternoon?

Dave.

I went to the same place i know most of the guys there i got given the rims are slightly different and that they dont recomend doing it...then one of the fellas i know said it doesnt really matter......my runflats came out at �160 a corner :o :o 8O So thats 320 quid for 2 tyres wow!

Im now seriously considering the move to toyos T1-R....i then went to Protyre in poole for a quote. he said about putting /40 R18 W

can you put wider tyres on my JCWs?

any help greatly appritiated.

Dave.

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Max

Fri Jun 02 2006, 06:25AM

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Dave I'll repeat what I posted on the first page of this thread

Tyre sizes:

The diameter of the 195/55-16 tyre/wheel combination is 24.44"

The diameter of the 205/50-16 tyre/wheel combination is 24.07"

This is only a 1% difference. There should be no real difference on the road. For the new tyre size the speedometer and odometer will read approximately 1% lower that the stock tyre.

Just as a point of interest, the diameter of the 175/65-15 is 23.96"

The diameter of the 205/45-17 is 24.26"

The three different tyre/wheel combinations were selected by MINI because they would not have to change the programing for the computer that calculates the speed and distance. The 205/50-16 falls within the stock tyre sizes.

Hope this helps?

Neil the Hat

Fri Jun 02 2006, 08:51AM

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I had 205/45/17 tyres on my car when I first got it from the dealer.

I know have 215/35/18 and there is less than 2mph difference between what my digital speed readout says and my external satnav.

30mph on speedo = 28mph on satnav.

Close enough for me!

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JCWcooper

Fri Jun 02 2006, 01:41PM

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im being really stupid i know.......but my Jcws currently have 205s on but can i put on 215s onto the same wheels (JCWs)

confusing me lots.....mind you thats easyily done

:oops:

Dave.

Just read maxs post again.....think i have the idea now.

was little worried that the tyres they were going to put on were going to be too wide for the wheels.

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Neil the Hat

Fri Jun 02 2006, 03:43PM

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im being really stupid i know.......but my Jcws currently have 205s on but can i put on 215s onto the same wheels (JCWs)

confusing me lots.....mind you thats easyily done

:oops:

Dave.

Just read maxs post again.....think i have the idea now.

was little worried that the tyres they were going to put on were going to be too wide for the wheels.

I think at the moment you have 205/40/18s?

You will not have any issues / problems putting on 215/35/18.

Hope that has answered your worries?

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Fri Jun 02 2006, 03:52PM

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yeah cheers neil.

ta

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redwhitecooper

Fri Jun 02 2006, 04:46PM

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OK as the general interest is in Toyo Proxes T1-R's

Here is a link to the page on their website that gives you the Tech Spec of the tyres, it should answer any questions on what size rims, and you can do the maths to see what the discrepancy between different tyres sizes would be

http://www.toyo.co.uk/productdetail.php?identity=products&product_id=2

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Tue Jul 25 2006, 09:30PM

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That's a good price for Oxford

My colleague in the office (P44NDP on here) bought 2 Dunlop Runflats fitted + VAT, from Micheldever Tyres, for �124 each on Saturday

As I say, that's a good price - lets not haggle about a tenner - especially considering the BMW price :roll: :roll: and the travelling time from wherever you live

If you are thinking of ditching the runflats? consider these?

Goodyear Eagle F1 (GSD3s)- 205/50-16 x four (for the MINI Cooper S)

� �86.75 each total �347.61

at Micheldever Tyres

The Toyo PXT1Rs are �353.21 for a set of four so no contest then I would say

boyband

Wed Jul 26 2006, 01:17PM

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yeah I was going to go to Micheldever and then I worked out that taking into account the petrol from oxford it probably worked out about even, and Brooko's is only 5 minutes down the road

I'm glad you mentioned about ditching the runflats as that's a conversation I want to have with someone so I'll quiz you the next time I see you Max

cooper_sport

Wed Jul 26 2006, 03:52PM

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Managed to get some Toyo T1R's for about �290 yesterday. All I need to do is go to my local garage and pay them to remove and fit my new tyres. Total cost should be about �330.

Got the tyres from this web site. http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

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Wed Jul 26 2006, 04:20PM

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Thanks John as I need to replace 2 tyres I'll get them from there

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Wed Jul 26 2006, 04:23PM

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Managed to get some Toyo T1R's for about �290 yesterday. All I need to do is go to my local garage and pay them to remove and fit my new tyres. Total cost should be about �330.

Got the tyres from this web site. http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Let me know what you think of them

Avon's are still the best tyres i've ever used and Toyo's are getting a slamming at the moment for making the compount harder I believe.

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Wed Jul 26 2006, 04:26PM

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Managed to get some Toyo T1R's for about �290 yesterday. All I need to do is go to my local garage and pay them to remove and fit my new tyres. Total cost should be about �330.

Got the tyres from this web site. http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Let me know what you think of them

Avon's are still the best tyres i've ever used and Toyo's are getting a slamming at the moment for making the compount harder I believe.

Really? I reckon that my T1Rs are slightly more grippy than my GSD3s (and even better in the wet (tested at Bedford in the wet to the limit 8O )

If you want a really sticky tyre why not go for the Toyo 888s?

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Wed Jul 26 2006, 04:51PM

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Managed to get some Toyo T1R's for about �290 yesterday. All I need to do is go to my local garage and pay them to remove and fit my new tyres. Total cost should be about �330.

Got the tyres from this web site. http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Let me know what you think of them

Avon's are still the best tyres i've ever used and Toyo's are getting a slamming at the moment for making the compount harder I believe.

Will do Dave. The Avon's are a great tyre in the wet and dry but then I'm only comparing to the runflats I had on before. I'm hoping these might last me a bit longer than the Avon's.

Dave

Thu Jul 27 2006, 06:59AM

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Managed to get some Toyo T1R's for about �290 yesterday. All I need to do is go to my local garage and pay them to remove and fit my new tyres. Total cost should be about �330.

Got the tyres from this web site. http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Let me know what you think of them

Exactly and as I know you like to take the tyres to the limit often it will be interesting to see a direct comparison from someone thats run both although arent you going for a different profile??

The Avons are �60 on there! :o Great prices and all include delivery and VAT!

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Thu Jul 27 2006, 07:17AM

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Who wants to try the �42 tyres??? I'd laugh if they performed best.

Right according to TyreTest.com(The site mytyres.co.uk uses) the Toyo's should win....Scores(Lowest being best):

Avon ZZ3 2.4
Goodyear GS-D3 2.2 (Let itself down on being noisy, uncomfortable and wearing out quick)
Toyo T1-R 1.7

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